Thursday, January 17, 2013

Bare-Bones Homeschooling {let's talk!}

Okay, friends. We need to talk.


Next school year I will have three school-age kids and three babies. I can't really put off thinking about the upcoming school year. It's got to be good and tight, require very little of my direct teaching time, and pack a power punch. No busywork. No frills. Bare-bones, if you will.

My kids are very good at coming up with their own frills during free time, so I'm not worried about fancy hands-on projects and such. I want solid, academic, and able-to-be-tackled-even-when-Mom-cannot-run-the-horse-and-pony-show.

Isn't that watercolor lovely? Primrose made it for me for Christmas. It's my favorite Christmas gift.

I'm thinking about Kim's thoughts regarding Ho-Ho vs. Cake Pop homeschooling. (Oh, go click over really quick. I'll still be here, and it'll only take a minute.) As much as I may want to serve up Cake Pops, I do believe having all these babies means I'm going to have to make happy with Ho-Ho's.


So anyway, I asked Andy to list his academic priorities for the kids, which took him all of about 2.8 seconds (math, reading, writing). Yeah, okay- thought so. I matched that up with my own vision for our homeschool (tempered by the whole cake pop/ho-ho analogy, of course) and everything I've learned from Andrew Pudewa over the last year or so. Here's where I'm at:
  • Read-Alouds: these fly right to the top of my priority list. If you're wondering why, that means you still haven't listened to Nurturing Competent Communicators, and you just need to go listen. ;) I have every intention of relying on audio books next year, as mama-led read-alouds can be tricky to maneuver with squalling babies about. In his talk, Andrew Pudewa says that listening to stories read-aloud is the best thing we can do to grow good writers, and that it would be best to carve out massive amounts of time to do so even if it means dumping other subjects entirely. Okay then. Yes, sir.
  • Memory Work: the other best thing we can do to grow good writers, according to Pudewa. Last time he was speaking here locally, he told us: "If you aren't memorizing anything, start. If you are memorizing already, memorize more. You can't memorize too much!" We're planning to use Classically Catholic Memory. I don't expect that we will tackle all the subjects covered in this program- we'll just do what we can do.  Memory Work is probably the most mom-intensive thing I've got on the docket for next year, so any suggestions on how to make at least parts of it more independent are welcome. Please!
  • Independent Reading Time: An hour at least (more for the 6th grader), every day. They can read from fiction and non-fiction on all different subjects under the sun. For the most part, I'll let them choose their own (with guidance, of course), but I will also create a list of books I'd like each of them to get to over the year. Snap will likely need to read to me each day too, as we move him into fluency stage.
  • Math: this is easy. Next year I'll have three kids in Teaching Textbooks, which requires extremely little of me (hallelujah). They'll drill facts on the Flashmaster, also completely independent (double hallelujah). My only caveat with TT is that it is very easy to go completely hands-off as the teacher, and that can be detrimental to the student (ask me how I know). I put it on my schedule to CHECK THEIR SCORES and help them work through their trouble areas on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. This is still, of course, much less time-consuming than teaching an entire program to three different kids at three different levels, so I'll take it.
  • Latin: this makes the cut for sure (add it to writing if you need to attach it to one of the reading/writing/math subjects, but it's really so much more than that). I'm learning right along with Prim, and honestly, I'm nervous about next year. Latin is hard, and moving right into First Form during a year when sleep, brain cells, and time are going to be at all-time lows just doesn't seem wise. Instead of plowing forward, we may take a year to work with Lingua Angelica. We would all memorize and sing the hymns and prayers together, and then Prim and I could do the written translation work. She and I would also keep our current grammar skills fresh by using the LC review workbook (scroll down to see what I'm talking about). I would very much love to hear from any of you who have used any of these programs. Is this a good plan? Is Lingua Angelica feasible when the schedule is tight? Is First Form going to be as hard as I expect it to be?
  • Writing: I love-love-love IEW, but I also know when I'm beat. It is extremely unlikely that I will be able to make time for this program next year. (Sigh. Ho-ho's vs. cake pops, remember? This is where I'm struggling!) What I think we'll do instead is spend a year focusing on read-alouds, memory work (both mentioned above), and lots of copywork. Copywork can be done independently and is such a good use of time. I also would like Prim to begin working through IEW's Level A Student Continuation Course, but I don't want to bite off more than we can chew. I'd rather do a few things really well than pile on lots and then only get to them halfway. Still thinking on that.


Usually I call religion an essential, but we are doing quite a bit this year, so I think it will be just fine to have a year where we listen to Bible stories on audio, go to Mass, and work on our daily prayer habits. I've got my eye on this audio Bible set (not the curriculum set, just the audio). Anyone have experience with that?

There are other materials that will make the cut, not because they are part of what I consider to be "essentials", but because they can be done independently and so there is really no reason to cut them out next year. For example: typing instruction, piano practice, Phonetic Zoo (for Prim only), and Explode the Code. Personally, I don't think Explode the Code holds a candle to All About Spelling, but there's only so much Mama to go around. The ETC workbooks don't require much Mama; AAS, fabulous as it is, requires lots of her. 


Something for me to keep in mind: we're homeschoolers! We are not obligated to fit our learning into a 9-month time period, and we aren't bound by the clock, either. Think outside of 9am-3pm. We've got a good 10 hours a day to fit in what needs to be done, and we can do it all over 12 months if need be. I'm not willing to trade our family peace or harmony for more academics, so it will likely behoove us to use the flexibility homeschooling affords us to our advantage.

Also, as long as we've got art materials readily available (and a few DVDs, too), art will happen on its own. No need to schedule it in or make it stressy in any way.

I know some of you are thinking about simplified homeschooling, too. Tell me- what are your essentials? How do you decide what goes and what stays? How long are you comfortable staying in bare-bones mode? I'm all ears. Let's talk!

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  1. Hi Sarah,

    I think this plan sounds good, but I also think that your kids are old enough to be self-directed. Letting them read and write the world for a year or so won't hurt, though you may have to look to non-traditional areas for proof (emailing counts as writing, right? Building a skate board ramp counts as math, doesn't it?).

    You also might think of finding some responsible buddy or mentor. Maybe a local retirement community or the parish has some program pairing up kids with its members (or even a knitting club, boule group, or something similar). Our daughter used to love following the WWII RAF and Wren docents around, and they were usually more than happy to talk to her for hours. For me at least, I'm always impressed by what the people of the world have to offer, but I have to remind myself that I don't have to be responsible for all the teaching.

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    1. Thank you- great ideas! And yes, I totally agree- I have to remind myself that I'm not responsible for all the teaching, too. Sometimes the people in the community make for the best teachers of all. Will have to ponder how I can make this work.

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  2. With the memory work can the kids work together so you don't have to be involved every day?

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    1. I'm trying to figure out how to make that happen without them wanting to kill each other. Ahem. Sometimes they need a moderator, if you know what I mean, lol. ;)

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  3. If that is what you call barebones i cannot begin to think what a full schedule would look like! *smile*

    when we are in damage limitation mode we opt for math english reading and good documentaries. Ben learns a lot through watching and listening.

    Hope you are ok

    San xxx

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    1. Okay, well that's pretty much what I have: math, reading, writing. Okay, plus memory work and Latin. ;) I definitely need to make use of good documentaries. Great idea.

      Doing fine, just struggling through some kick-butt morning sickness and fatigue. The fatigue I can handle (kind of), but the nausea just really makes the day hard! I'm 12 weeks now, so hopefully not too much longer...? Anyway, thanks for asking. :)

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  4. It's early, and I'm only halfway through my coffee, but I don't know what this day will bring or how soon I'll be able to get back here, so I just want to give my initial thoughts.
    I have no doubt that your curriculum choices will be sound, you've really got a good grasp on where your kids are at and what they need. What struck me about this post was the last paragraph about the nature of being homeschoolers. It took a long time for that to really sink in with me. I kept trying to make our school days look like a "normal" school day, and kept kicking myself at the end of each year when we weren't done by June. I know a family with many kids who homeschool year round, and I never understood why my friend would "choose" to do that. Now that we have nearly as many children (and many age/grade levels), I finally get it; it's not a choice she makes, it's done out of necessity. It doesn't mean that each child is "doing school" ten hours a day/12 months a year, but it means school has the opportunity to happen during those time frames. It becomes even more of a whole-life lifestyle than it already is, and IT'S GOOD. It all works out just fine.
    I've found that the main key to embracing this part of homeschooling a big family is organization. You have to know what comes next for each child, so that when an opportunity to pin one of them down and tackle an hour of schoolwork arises, you both know where to start and don't waste time gathering thoughts and materials. You seem to have the organizational part of it down too. You're going to be just fine ;).

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    1. I think you're right. Pairing organization with flexibility is going to be key, I bet.

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  5. I just read this quote this morning from LindaFay at charlottemasonhelp.com and thought it was applicable here:

    "Stick to the basics-excellent literature and poetry, narration and very brief copywork sessions. Short math lessons, nature walks, a little art and music and a handicraft now and then. Keep a globe nearby. That's about it."

    Not sure if it's a subject you care too much about, but I find it very easy to include "Composer study" by simply playing CDs of one composer for an entire month. I turn it on in the mornings while we are doing our morning chores and getting ready for the day. :)

    For me, personally, the essentials are reading aloud, reading silently, writing (copywork, thank you cards, etc), a little math, nature and God. I also like to throw in a little art (appreciation ~ as you said, they DO art on their own), music and poetry for good measure. I think that about covers it.

    By the way, what do you use for audio books? Just from the library? And, when do they listen? Do they sit still and listen or listen while they play or what? I've not yet figured out how to incorporate them and I NEED to because I can only read aloud so much! :)

    Hugs to you!

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    1. We have a lot of audio books at our library, so yes- that's my first stop, usually. We did discuss audio book sources at our first Read-Aloud Revival, so be sure to check there and see if there are some sources you weren't aware of yet. (There are suggestions in the comments, too).

      Yep- my kids color or play with legos or otherwise play while they listen. Some ideas for things they can do while we listen are in this Read-Aloud Revival post. Hope that helps!

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  6. I'm with San. This looks like a lot to me. I don't have a large family and unfortunately, no babies on the way. I was wanting to ask about the history cards posted on what looks like closet doors. Can you tell me where you got those?

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    1. I made those. We are memorizing history sentences from cycle 3 of Classical Conversations so I just used those sentences plus clip art from the internet to make them. I would share, but I'm sure I'm violating all kinds of copyright so I'd better not. ;)

      We don't use Classical Conversations otherwise, but they have GREAT memory work selections!

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    2. Ha! You are probably right about the violations! Thanks, though. They look great.

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  7. The audio version of the Jesus Storybook Bible is FABULOUS! David Suchet has a gift, no doubt. I think it's a bit light for the over six crowd, though it is enjoyable. I believe there's an audio version of the Bible read by James Earl Jones that you might enjoy in addition to JSB (though I'm not sure of the translation). Talk about rich language to encourage good writing!

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    1. Awesome. Looking up the James Earl Jones version right now. Thanks!

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    2. Hmmmm... looks like the James Earl Jones Bible is KJV? Not much of a fan of the KJV, myself. I do know that EWTN has an audio Bible app. Maybe I should look into that...

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    3. I agree! That is a bummer! As a consolation, he narrates Peter Spier's Noah's Ark (among other picture books). It's interesting because the book is wordless, but the audio is a good twenty minutes! :-D

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    4. The Jesus Storybook Bible is a wonderful children's Bible! great for reading aloud; i read it at our morning prayer times to my kids ages two through 11. sometimes very moving way of putting things; my son is like 'Mom. don't cry." it fits well with Catechesis of the Good Shepherd, in terms of the focus on the goodness of God and the narrative of His plan. I am thrilled to hear there is a David Suchet audio version.

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    5. Check out the Truth and Life audio bible. They use the RSV, but only do the New Testament. You would have to find something else for the Old Testament.
      http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Dramatized-Audio-Bible-Testament/dp/1591713250/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1361586887&sr=8-22&keywords=audio+bible

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  8. Looks like a great ( and full!) plan! Bare bones in our house is math, read-alouds and writing of choice ( copying a sentence or two from the read-alouds for the younger kiddos). You are ambitious!

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    1. But this is pretty much what you say bare bones is! It's just reading and copywork and math! Except I've added in memory work and Latin. Okay, fine. :P

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  9. I think Lingua Angelica will be too much, except for listening to the CD. What I did when I had lots of little ones close together was to sit down in the afternoons with my older kids while I rocked/nursed/fed/played with a baby (or two) and do our chants and prayers and cover any new grammar or vocabulary that came up. Then they would do all the written work on their own, usually at our afternoon quiet time, when at least some people were napping. (Actually, they still work this way.) But I didn't even try to do anything but read aloud to people for the first 3 months after I had twins! Anything else was too hard to keep up, and I was way, way too sleep-deprived.

    We used a lot of audio books and our science for most of the year consisted of NOVA on PBS, I think. The kids would often draw or color while I read. I tried to read the Bible on a regular basis, and we did brief periods of catechism from the Baltimore catechism, which can be done in about 5 minutes a day. I did not worry about writing. We did informal narrations. In the afternoons, I would sit down with one kid or another and we would try to do some spelling or math on the floor. I had emerging readers read to me. We used workbooks. We did not get everything done every day. (We still don't.)

    One of the things I figured out that has worked pretty well over the years is not to worry about making complicated reading assignments, but just to acquire the books you want them to read independently and put them on a shelf or in a basket, and then have them choose a book. My readers have always loved reading and don't need scheduled time to do it, just a supply of books; and my emerging readers I have always tried to have read *with* me (or to my husband, a lot of the time it has ended up that he picks up the slack with reading around bedtime)... and since there are books around, they naturally seem to spend time with books on their own, too.

    I think it does help to have sort of an unschooly mindset for a while... lay in some new art supplies, CDs, science kits, games, that kind of thing, that are *totally* independent of you. The thing about twins is that it is very hard to plan for what life will be like with them before they arrive. And I think you also have to allow for the fact that you may spend some time on bedrest before they get here, or you may have preemies. So I think you're wise to think about all of this now. Your schedule for the next year or so may not be very "scheduled", but I wouldn't worry too much about the times when you just have to let everything go to focus on babies. Survival is more important than copywork, IMO :-)

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    1. You know I'm listening, Angel. I always love what you have to say, and no one can tell me how to "do twins" as well as you! :)

      So I have First Form Latin already- should we just take a few months off when the babies are born and then when we can, go ahead with it (super super slowly, perhaps) and do it in the informal-ish way you describe? Is that what you would recommend? I will get the DVDs if I use this program, because we use the Latina Christiana DVDs and love them.

      You said you didn't worry about writing. I have a feeling Andrew Pudewa himself would tell me to just let it go and read-read-read instead. I like the idea of copywork because it requires 0 of me.

      More advice, please! I'm all ears! :)

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    2. Have you looked into Latin's Not So Tough, Minimus, or Getting Started With Latin? I think that all three programs are much more enjoyable than the Memoria Press Latin books.

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    3. I haven't. Andrew Pudewa recommends Memoria, so that's why I started there (well, that and a good friend of mine sent me her materials for several years, so I saved a boatload of money on it!). We really enjoy the Memoria materials, so I don't think I'm looking to switch. I've heard great things about Latin's Not So Tough and Latin for Children, though, so I know other programs are great, too.

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  10. My best advice is to decide now that whatever you can do will be fine..this saves you loads of frustration and guilt down the line. GK Chesterton said "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." Write down a list your older ones could follow alone, then WHEN you cannot be involved they will still be able to go on. For me when my twins were born (in September) and I had five to school(grades 12, 10, 8, 4, 3 and K), the hardest thing was keeping up with anything that I had to be the driving force for. They all did math and phonics and as all but one love to read we kept up with that ok too. Everything else, even things that were important to me, we did when we could and not when we couldnt. I dont know how you handle evaluation of work but that was a killer for me, I asked a good friend to read papers and grade projects or we would never have gotten thru it. The time when you are nursing, twins is never as peaceful or conducive to school as it is with one. Either you have no hands free, or you have to hold one and soothe the other:)

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    1. I love that quote of Chesterton, and you've got such great great advice. Whatever we can do will be fine. I am certain that grace will fill in the gaps. THANK YOU FOR THIS!

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    2. Sarah-
      I can't agree with Julie more about the time when nursing twins. It's not so peaceful as a singleton. However, a breast friend pillow is very very helpful! I was able to pop the twins on, put my lunch between their heads and read a book;) Haha.

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    3. Oh my goodness, I hope you got someone to take a picture of that! Lol. Will be looking into the pillow and I'm sure I'll be back to ask your advice on what else I need for twins! :)

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  11. My best advice is to decide now that whatever you can do will be fine..this saves you loads of frustration and guilt down the line. GK Chesterton said "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." Write down a list your older ones could follow alone, then WHEN you cannot be involved they will still be able to go on. For me when my twins were born (in September) and I had five to school(grades 12, 10, 8, 4, 3 and K), the hardest thing was keeping up with anything that I had to be the driving force for. They all did math and phonics and as all but one love to read we kept up with that ok too. Everything else, even things that were important to me, we did when we could and not when we couldnt. I dont know how you handle evaluation of work but that was a killer for me, I asked a good friend to read papers and grade projects or we would never have gotten thru it. The time when you are nursing, twins is never as peaceful or conducive to school as it is with one. Either you have no hands free, or you have to hold one and soothe the other:)

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  12. Our situation is a non-traditional homeschooling situation since I work, but some things we do might help you out.

    Memory work is the first order of our day. My oldest reviews on his own, we discuss it together about 3 times a week and he studies it on his own or with his dad every afternoon while I am working. We review together while dinner is made or if we are in the car. I put all the memory work for each week onto a single page and then print one copy for each of us. That goes into a page protector and on the flip side is the map we are studying.

    I had debilitating morning sickness through 26 weeks with my 3rd last year so we schooled from my bed a lot of the time.

    I was incredibly stressed about how this year would go- between the baby and adding my 2nd as a kindergartener I wasn't sure how everything would get done. I've really taken advantage of baby's naps. Whenever she goes down for morning nap we can do our read aloud without interruption or read together for science or whatever needs my undivided attention. We don't do a lot of projects this year unless it's on a weekend when Dad is home with us and can either supervise the project or hang with the baby.

    We do some things in smaller amounts because I'd rather do a little well than a lot badly or nothing at all.


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    1. I'm with you on smaller amounts and I absolutely agree. I would rather do two things really well (like read alouds and math) than try to get to too much and do everything shoddy. It's just so hard to pick those top, priorities, isn't it?

      Thanks for thoughts on how your son does memory work. I think I can make something like that work here.

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  13. There is a reason the blog/internet/cyber world posted that last entry twice.

    "My best advice is to decide now that whatever you can do will be fine..this saves you loads of frustration and guilt down the line. GK Chesterton said "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." "I asked a good friend to read papers and grade projects."

    Words to live by this year, my Dear. Your bare bones looks great. Be prepared to enlist family and friends in your daily survival mode. I am sure they would love to be part of so much love and happiness, not to mention the nitty gritty of the homeschooling trenches.

    Love reading your posts and all the interesting comments, too. Daily prayers and blessings to you all, Sheryl

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  14. Sarah, what book is your child using in the first picture? I have been looking for a reader for my daughter and that one looks promising! I will keep you in my prayers!

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    1. oohh!! This was my question, too! I just promised my first grader some "fun" books if he'd do his reading lessons in the alotted amount of time. That excerpt in the picture looked like it might fit the bill!
      (also, so that I don't have to post another comment elsewhere... something I've done a handful of times to save a little time when I need it, is giving books on cd or netflix "assignments" - mostly science or history - and then "quizzing" with a face to face oral narration - easy for when I'm nursing or making lunch, etc...)

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    2. That is Cobweb the Cat, one of the All About Reading readers. We don't use the All About Reading program, but we just got our hands on this reader and we really like it. The illustrations are nice, so it looks more like a real book than, say, BOB books. I like it because it is very phonics based (and most of the early readers from our public library are not- they are full of complicated sight words).

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    3. Whoops- I tried to put a link in that comment, but it didn't work. Let me try again, so you can find the readers easily:

      All About Reading readers

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  15. Love CCM! We just started Beta. Although the author recommends a two hour chunk to intro all the work at once, that didn't work for us. Instead we squeeze tiny chunks in when we can. I would forget about IEW for this year, they can use the CCM sentences for copy work.

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    1. Great! I bought CCM's Beta Teacher Manual for next year. Great idea to have them use their memory sentences for copywork. Thank you!

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  16. Sarah, based on our experience with Memoria Press products (100% positive, by the way!) I would recommend First Form Latin over Lingua Angelica for sure.

    I want to interject here that I really really tend not to 'tell people how to homeschool their kids' — but you asked for opinions :-) So, you know, take what works, let the rest go :-)

    So. I think it makes more sense if your hope and goal is for Prim (and the younger ones, in time?) to use the Form series? Lingua Angelica is a lovely supplement, but if you're going to use it for actual Lessons, I think it is just as labor-intensive as First Form, maybe **even more so**. Here is why: it is a translation program, not a language acquisition program. We like it. We like Lingua Biblica too! But they are translation programs. We use them as an addition to the Form series. I'm not sure I'd recommend them instead of, you see?

    The Form series is such a fabulous program (my kids are at the end of Second Form, currently) and you and Prim can work through it as slowly or as swiftly as you like and as your life/family needs dictate. It might be well worth your while to have it, learn with it as you can, as opposed to putting Prim off from advancing for a year.

    There are teaching DVDs to learn from too? I don't know if that fits your budget, or inclinations, but I've only heard fantastic things about them (we haven't used the DVDs). Maybe that would be a good choice for Prim for First Form in this Year of Babies? Pop the DVD in for her to have her lesson, and you can be right there, listening in as you nurse, cuddle, and bounce babies.

    If you wanted something for all three to do this coming year that incorporated Latin, that they could do on their own, and has the added advantage of improving their cursive (if it needs it, or even if not! *smile*) I **highly** recommend MP's Latin Copybook Cursive: Hymns & Prayers which incorporates sayings and hymns from Latina Christiana and First and Second Form Latin. My kids loved this and they actually asked me to get more copies so that they could go back through it again. Here's a link: http://www.memoriapress.com/descriptions/Copy-Books-Latin.html

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    1. Would the copybook be good for a third grader learning cursive who's done a little CCM Latin and a little Song School Latin? (Basics and a few prayers.e loves writing in cursive now that he's learned - mostly self taught.

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    2. This is SUPER helpful, Ellie- thank you! I have First Form already, so this would actually save me some $$. I will definitely buy the DVDs. We are using the DVDs with Latina Christiana and I think they are very helpful.

      Sometimes I forget that I can move more slowly than a traditional plan. So we can take two or three weeks to master a lesson before moving on- thank you for reminding me of that. (I know-duh. But we lose sight of these things sometimes, don't we?)

      I've also had my eye on the copybooks, so your recommendation might just seal that deal. I don't have intentions of starting the next two on latin until year after next, so that they both can do it together. This may be just perfect for our pre-latin year. Thank you!

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    3. Amanda, I feel that the copybook is good for a child of any age/academic level who is able to read and write: if they are cursive-ready, the copybook is a good choice, in other words. It can be used at any pace you like. On the same page as the one I linked to is another cursive copybook, to correspond with Prima Latina. That one would also be a good choice.

      Sarah, you're welcome! I began my two together with Prima Latina and we simply went on from there — they are 2.5yrs apart in age, but I wanted them together academically in as many subjects as possible: we love Latin! I think the copybooks might just be a really nice way to introduce your younger two (erm, middle two!) to Latin in the coming year. It is absolutely possible to take just as long as you need per lesson: that's the beauty of homeschooling, right?! But also, as I say, the Form series lends itself so nicely to tailoring to each family's needs.

      I haven't had twins, but I have had a brain tumor, with subsequent physical disability. That first eight months after surgery were definitely a 'quieter' academic time for us!

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  17. I second the Latin Copybook, and I would just stick to the CCM Latin work, maybe use Lingua Angelica as a listening/singing-along/memorization program. If you *really* wanted more Latin, the English From the Roots Up cards might be good. The rest of your plan sounds great!

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    1. Great- thanks! We have the English From the Roots Up cards, but I bailed on them this year because I felt like it was overkill. I'm really going to go look at those copybooks again, now that you're the second rec of the day there! ;)

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  18. I have been itching all morning to chime in so I'll get in line here - 26th?

    We use Lingua Angelica and find it a wonderful reinforcement of Memoria Press Latin programs. I would suggest actually reading the front of the teacher's manual for their suggestions of how to work through the book and each song. However, we don't do the parsing - yet. And I have to say it's pretty cool when we attend a Latin Mass that lets everyone sing along, how adults careen their heads and stare in amazement that kids actually know THEIR songs.

    Have you checked out Visual Latin? Never used it, but hear great things about it.

    Another Latin help is Greek and Latin Roots - there's even a CARD GAME set to make it fun. This, along with Lingua Angelica might even be a plausible substitute for each child having their own Latin program.

    Religion - we are using Writing Your Catholic Faith. It's really a handwriting book, but they copy catechismy type things so it does double duty - LOVE THIS!

    If you can swing some together time to start the day before the kids start independent work, I've always found this goes a long way in filling everyone up and getting along the rest of the day.

    Otherwise, I think you are completely on the right track incorporating self-checking curriculum. Now I am off to take a look at flashmaster.

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    1. Writing Your Catholic Faith sounds similar to the St. Ann Helper copybook Tulip is using this year- it uses the catechism as copywork and is all kinds of fabulous. I'll check it out.

      Yes- I think you're right about filling up everyone's tank at the outset of the day, if possible. We have found read-alouds to be best loved first thing in the morning here.

      Thanks for your thoughts on Latin. Still pondering.

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  19. Hi Sarah, If you want to keep writing ticking over, or growing, consider getting the older ones to narrate something from your read alouds, even if its simply the piece they enjoyed most that day, give them lots of freedom, and then read it over / gently review it with them. Its simple, can be done while you are dealing with the babies, and can be really encouraging when you get to see what they enjoyed in your read-alouds.

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    1. Perfect, thank you. Sometimes we let narration slip, but next year will be a great one to rev that engine up. It's simple and requires very little of me other than my ears. :)

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  20. i love these posts of yours. :) thanks for sharing the ho-ho/cake pop link, such a great, great analogy that I need to keep in the forefront of my brain at all times!! I'm also intrigued by that memory work program you linked to, wondering if something like that exists for non-catholics, will have to do a search. I am wondering, though, why you feel that memory work is mom-intensive? Maybe I'm not doing memory work the right way! ha!! But it's one of the easiest parts of my day!! I see that you are wanting it to be more independent, I guess maybe that is what you mean...I just sit on the couch and read through it all...while they recite it with me. I have done one thing that has been good, which encourages memory work to be a little bit more independent. I have typed up whatever poem or scripture we are working on (like a whole Psalm or something) and hung it on our white board. I have them recite it by themselves 3 times each day. They also write it for copywork. Those are both independent ideas...but we do still go through lots of it in the mornings together. As for Latin programs, I've had Visual Latin in my amazon cart for quite awhile after reading around about it...but have yet to take the plunge. :)

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    1. Classically Catholic Memory is (at least to my understanding) a Catholic version of Classical Conversations, which is a protestant Christian program. I'm pretty sure the CCM folks based their program on CC.

      What's probably more likely than you not doing memory work correctly is that I am making it too hard on myself! lol. I tend to complicate things, sigh. I've been trying to dress up our memory work time with games and such so that the recitations don't get too long and boring. That might have something to do with the sheer quantity of memory work we are doing (we are doing a ton!). I do feel like unless I'm reciting with them, they aren't doing a very good job of actively memorizing. Maybe this is more of a self-discipline issue we need to work on. I probably shouldn't need to hold their hands to see progress.

      I really like your idea of typing up the work and having them go over it by themselves. And I definitely need to use it for copywork- that's a double punch.

      Thanks for your ideas, as always. :)

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  21. I said I wasn't going to add another comment, but I take it back... Thanks for the link to the All About Readers. I'm going to look into it! I couldn't agree more about the library "easy readers" - where do they get some of those words from??? And, I can't stand the BOB books because of the halting "stories" and stick figure I-could-draw-that "illustrations." What mom should have to sit through that? I even felt guilty the first time I had my son read one to me. SO not what I want reading to be about.
    Sooo... Have you heard of the Books to Remember Series by Laura Appleton-Smith, from Flyleaf Publishing? I am a HUGE fan. The books are phonics based, they truly are "easy readers," perfect for kiddos that are ready for something more than their phonics lessons. The books and levels increase in difficulty, but the phonics rules, sounds, and blends used in each story are listed in the back of the books for review. The stories are simply delightful and the illustrations are worthwhile art. They are truly lovely picture books that an emerging reader can read aloud, and mom won't want to gnaw off her arm having to sit by and listen! I really really really recommend them!
    Finally - I've been interested in starting the CCM program next year with my two oldest. I'm just wondering if you plan your Science, History, or Geography to match what's being covered in the CCM year? Or do you memorize what's in CCM independent of anything else you're covering?
    Thanks, Sarah! God bless you as you continue to plan for next year! (and for your new little blessings!)
    Theresa

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    1. Looking up the Books to Remember series. Thank you!

      We haven't used CCM before, so next year it will be new for us. I'm not planning on doing any science/history/geography otuside of what's being covered in CCM, other than read-alouds (which may or may not coincide, but I'll probably make some sort of historical booklist that does). I do know that some families use CCM as their spine- from what I hear, the science is pretty complete. I don't know that you'd need a whole different program for it, or for history/geography either.

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    2. We are using it, but I would never call the science part "complete." We don't correlate the CCM with the other things we are studying, we just review the facts each day.

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  22. I just wanted to give a shout out about Susan Wise Bauer's Writing With Skill. My 6th grader loved IEW, but I couldn't implement it due to restricted amounts of Mommy time. ;) He's been using this independently. I've cracked the teacher manual twice when he's had a question. The younger grades version (Writing with Ease)requires a lot more of my time. We're probably not doing WWS perfectly, but we're doing it. Or I should say, he's doing it.

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    1. Thanks Maryan, I'll check it out!

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    2. We are using WWS this year also. I find it doesn't require alot of time on my part and I have modified it based on grade level(easily). I have a 9th grader using it completely on her own and 5th and 7th graders using it with very little input on my part.

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  23. I haven't read through the other comments but wow, that still looks like a lot!

    My briefer than I would like thoughts:
    For "memory work" (I probably shouldn't even call it that), my boys have taken to putting on CDs up in the playroom while they play with Legos. They memorized a bunch of IEWs poetry I that way without me even realizing it. Could you implement that method somehow? Just having CDs on while they play or draw or whatever? Maybe even record your own, if needed?

    If my Theology degree counts for anything (usually not ;), that Bible doesn't impress me that much. I would highly recommend the new Truth and Life Audio Bible http://www.truthandlifeapp.com/index.html . Brian got it free and John Paul has been listening to it and loves it. Check out the cast! Samwise is in it! It is really really well done. It's the RSV edition and it has the imprimatur from Cardinal Dolan.

    My essentials are math, writing, reading, Latin. With the rest I find myself venturing more and more to the unschooly side. But this post is a good kick in the pants because I have been letting a lot slide around here...I lose motivation so quickly with school and I'm having a hard time transitioning the six year old into regular lessons. Care to add an eight year old, an almost six year old, and a three year old to your classroom? What's a few more, right?

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    1. I second that audio bible. We love it!

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  24. Yes on the CDs! We do IEW's poetry too (I forgot to mention it in my post). CCM has audio CDs for the memory work-I had forgotten. I can totally use those.

    And the Bible you recommended is the same one I found on EWTN, so... Perfect.

    Math, writing, reading, Latin.... That's what I have here, so what makes it look like a lot? I'm curious, because you aren't the first to say so but I don't see what else I've added in....

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  25. We're going bare bones in our year-round school this coming spring as well- baby girl is on her way! :)

    I am thankful that my minister husband covers current events, Latin, and athletics with my big boys (eleven and thirteen), which allows me to allow THEM to be student-led in the rest of their work; they can read and do narrations and experiments on their own, with a nursing mama's eye nearby. Yay for Teaching Textbooks over here, too! :)

    And then my two youngers, four and seven, will be my responsibility but thankfully, they can call crawl in next to me wherever, after retrieving the books I ask them too.

    I love that you got this conversation started- I will be stalking the comments for more wonderful tips! (Also- I'm curious what book that is in the first photo? It looks like a wonderful reader!)

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    1. It's one of the readers from the All About Reading program. We like it! :)

      Congrats on your baby-on-the-way! When are you due?

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    2. April 10th! Baby #5, second girl. :) So excited for your twins! What an amazing blessing. I so look forward to journeying through your pregnancy on your blog- you make me smile.
      Thank you for the reader info!

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  26. So a little tidbit after reading through all the comments re: memory work and the different ways to do it. My twins are 8 and they thoroughly enjoy doing their memory work together and since one is more OCD than the other, she keeps it all in check and i check in once a week or so to see their progress. So that's something to look forward to, Sarah!;)

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    1. If I let Prim run things, everybody would get to everything every day. :) But that would be like putting a dictator in charge of the masses, and the masses wouldn't like that so much, lol. ;) I do think having the kids review their memory work on their own should be on the agenda- I don't know why I'm not having them do that already!

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  27. Honestly, I am tired of trying to reinvent the wheel. After homeschooling using an adapted version of MODG since 1996, I have decided to bite the bullet, suck it up, and do "School-in-a Box" with Seton. I have reached a point in my life where I am throwing in the towel. I just want to get'r done and stop worrying about gaps over what I can't get done, because it's all so parent-intensive. One thing I have decided to do periodically, are lap-books. Being freed up from the other curriculum, I will have more brain power to devote to them.

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    1. I'm doing that for high school. It makes life easier and I can always add things if I want to, but at least the minimum is covered. (Right now we are adding Latin, French, German, art, handwork, P.E., and music).

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    2. That's not throwing in the towel! That's doing what's best for your family! There are some homeschooling families I highly respect (including the author of the cake pop/ho-ho analogy I linked in the post) that use and love Seton. We have to do what works, I think.

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  28. I'll add my two cents. I went bare, bare bones when my toddler was born because after 7 years of hoping & praying my dream of a second came true I wanted to fully enjoy the moment. I took a dear friends advice and did this: Read aloud. A lot. And when I felt like something was missing I picked up another book. I used my own voice and plenty of audio books and made sure he was read to for a minimum of two hours per day from a large variety of topics/genres. He loved it.

    For everything else I simply had resources available to him and had him select his own path of education. Some weeks he did tons of math, the next tons science. He watched lots of documentaries and conducted science experiments with written lab reports. All I did was ask him to do something from the different shelves/baskets of resources for at least two hours each day. He'd get lost in a project for hours more often than not.

    We are now, 19-months later, just getting back to a tiny bit more added to our daily plan. And by tiny I mean tiny. Math & copywork that take all of 30-minutes. Only three days per week. The above proved to be so fruitful I just can't change it. He is deep in his own study of Latin, working through electricity projects, planning a garden, writing books, and reading TONS.

    Anyway, just wanted to toss what worked for us out there. I have no regrets and I don't feel like he fell behind at all.

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    1. This is fabulous, all of it. Thanks for sharing!

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    2. I thought of one other thing I did. When we went to the library (we went every other week) he had a list of books he had to select. Not titles, just types. He had to select a biography, poetry, science, history, fiction, award winning, fairy tale, project based (a book that had things he could do - art projects, science experiments, things to build, etc.), audio book. There might have been more, but I'm tired ;) Anyway, I found this really helped him get a variety of reading materal to have available. It also sent him down many trails he would have never thought of.

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  29. I very much enjoyed this Sarah - thank you for sharing! xo

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  30. Bear...
    That water color by Prim is amazing. She is becoming quite the artist. PS: I agree with Penny (above)...you're awesome!
    PB

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  31. I wish I could read all the replies- you probably have the makings of a book here. Having been down a similar road before, I would say that your "plan" is perfect. I would add in to remember that learning happens all the time and that homeschooling is a long journey- if the plan goes awry, it will be okay.

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  32. Just want to say the watercolor is so lovely! Happy Sunday!

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  33. There are a ton of comments here, so I will just add my own little bit. :) Audio books are a gift from God. I am serious. I have TMJ and occasionally I will have a flare up and can barely open my mouth, let alone read aloud to the kids. So a few years ago I started using audio books with the kids. It has been such a blessing. We listen to them all the time. Look at Libirivox for free ones and I just started looking into Audible.com.

    It has become a tradition (even on no school days) to sit down in the morning as a family and listen to a chapter in a book. Right now we are working through the Little House books (had to buy those but they are worth it!). It is such a joy to sit there and listen, knit and sip coffee while someone reads to us.

    I have on occasion had to do bare bones school. Babies, injuries, etc... But it is only for a time and soon you will find you are ready to do more and the kids won't suffer one little bit. I think sometimes, it can be more of our own guilt making us think we should do more.

    Everything will be great and you may find after words that your plans may still have to change and that is ok. That is the beauty of homeschooling! You can make a change.

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  34. You have a wealth of information here and such a rich support circle. You and the kids will be just fine. XOXO.

    Also, many highschooers need to earn community service credits/hours these days..they could earn them tutoring or assessing for you. Or a college kid interested in teaching may want to help.

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  35. I feel like going barebones right now and I don't have a baby or two on the way. :-)

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  36. We have had times when we have done just the basics after babies and I find that if I just have a few things up my sleeve for those days when everything goes well and I have extra time the kids all manage fine. We might do writing or poetry once or twice a term or get to some science. At times the basics have just been reading, maths books and board games. Last year we had a major medical emergency here and school went out the window for a long time. We didn't even bother with basics though once I actually thought about what the girls were doing, lots of school was actually being covered. Board games cover so much! Girls didn't want to do anything because they just wanted to be with their brother who had been sick so we had a lot of family time. Time well spent. We did have someone come in and do some school with the girls and I really didn't like it. They ended up doing things that I wouldn't have allowed under normal circumstances. One thing that we did start when we went back to routine schooling was allocate time with the baby. I would set the timer for 15mins and I would do maths or whatever with one child, someone else would do independent work and another would have to stay with the baby and entertain/watch him. then we would all swap around. It worked well and we will continue that this year as I think it actually gets harder the more the little ones can move. There is going to be so much baby love in your house that you should just enjoy that! Hope you are starting to feel better

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  37. Sarah, Congratulations on your twins! My #4 and #5 are identical twin boys. I've had to simplify home school too, but sometimes it makes me feel uneasy. My oldest is more on the independent path these days. Your plans sound well-thought out. I'm only home-schooling one right now. My twins are only two and that first year with them was topsy-turvy.

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  38. Hey Sarah! It's your Ho Ho friend here You're gonna be great even if you don't do that whole list. I don't actually know of ANY homeschool moms out there doing more than that. Not daily. Not that I have actually witnessed. They may exist. Maybe. ; ) I make lists like that and then cut them in half in frequency since that is my reality. Some things not on your list:

    GO OUTSIDE ALOT Don't skimp there.

    I was telling a special needs child's mom the other day that when Colin was a baby a lady shared with me how she read 15 books a day to her special needs child. It really stuck with me. That was 15 picture books mind you. We don't do as many now that we read chapter books but the principle is the same. Have each reader read something to the smallers too and it adds up.

    Practical life is important too. If they are right there with you pouring cereal, washing dishes, whisk broom sweeping under the table, etc it will take forever, be terribly unproductive and will keep them extremely happy and learning and together. You won't have time for much else besides all that daily practical work and reading, praying, math. That's ok too. I never did get any more latin done besides their serving responses fwiw. But they like each other. A lot. : )

    Add a nap in there too. It counts. I couldn't function without one. And all that isn't "school" but it makes school better. Or just plain possible in some cases!

    Still sooo happy for you. Enjoy enjoy enjoy. It is a magical time.

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  39. Thank-you so much for the link to Mr. Pudewa's talk!

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  40. I'm someone who found your blog through your writing about Ruth Beechick! I just love her! She's what keeps me sane while homeschooling my 4 kiddos (ages 12, 10, 7, and 4)with one on the way in May(congrats on your double blessing, btw). She's what works for us, simple but straightforward. Just to share a bit of our experience....we stick with the three R's. We don't use any curriculum except for math (math on the level and life of fred are our faves). We have table time each morning right after breakfast, which is where we cover Bible study, memory work, foreign language (which I sort of include as part of our memory work, memorizing words and phrases), unit study reading and activiites, and anything else I want to do together. We do a bit of artist/composer study during lunch, and we try to get out to do some nature study a couple times a week. I have been thoroughly blessed with doing school this way, and I feel like my kids are very well rounded. I particularly love the way we do unit studies....I pull their copywork/dictation and writing exercises from it or from other literature we are currently reading/listening to...and although we regularly stop and research various things, look at maps, or watch documentaries if we can, I don't always feel the need to do any elaborate project unless I want to, or the kids want to, and can do it on their own. It's great! So...not trying to persuade you....but just remember kids can thrive with whatever you can do with them, so long as you are giving your best at the time, and your best will not always look the same....a hard lesson I've had to learn over the last few months. Thank you for all your wonderful sharings here, they have truly blessed me!

    Sara

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    1. I forgot, one of our favorite parts of the day is as soon as everybody is ready for bed, we all get together on my bed and read several poems from various poetry books, as well as some Psalms, and we pray...If nothing else went well that day, I always feel better if I at least got to do that!

      Blessings,
      sara

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    2. You know, it's been awhile since I've gone back and read my Ruth Beechick books. I think I will! She has always struck me as so common-sense; like a mother could retain her peace and calm while homeschooling that way.

      I love all the things you've described here. Thanks for commenting.

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  41. Your plan looks lovely, though ambitious. Ambitious is good, but be prepared to let some stuff go and not beat yourself up about it. I just had my little baby boy and it threw off our homeschool more than expected and for longer than expected. They'll still turn out fine, I hope. :) Your post and the comments have been so helpful - I can't wait to check out CCM. We have used Classical Conversations history songs/sentences too and loved them. It would be great to have a more Catholic program!

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